David Dunstan – Self Protection Legacy

David Dunstan and Neil Jenkinsn

The David Dunstan saga may be over, however we’re hoping it will leave a legacy for the benefit of shooters in New South Wales, and elsewhere.

You know the story. Last September, David apprehended an armed intruder on his property with an unloaded 22.

The local police took his guns away for 6 weeks and suspended his licence, for doing nothing more than trying to protect his family. Then his wife, Andrea, had a condition imposed on her licence prohibiting her from keeping firearms at the family home, while David’s licence was suspended.

This caught the attention of the national media, with two appearances on The Project and coverage on many local and regional news services. The reason is simple: even people who don’t like guns could see how badly he was treated.

The Deputy Premier of NSW, John Barilaro, visited the Dunstans and expressed his support for them.

Legal help

With your help, the CFCV raised over $20,000 to provide the Dunstans with the legal support they needed.

The lawyer we engaged, Stephen Mainstone, did a fantastic job in advising both the Dunstans and ourselves on our options, dealing with the registry and challenging them to make decisions with the timeframes they had.

We also had several discussions with coalition authorities in NSW to ensure the political importance of this was understood.

The problem with the NSW Firearms Act

Once the Dunstans got their guns back, we used the remaining funds to ask Stephen to look at some legal questions about changes which could be made to the NSW Firearms Act 1996 to avoid a repetition of this.

It was clear from the outset that David was not going to be charged, as there is a defence of self-protection available under the NSWCrimes Act 1900.

However, that did not stop his guns being taken from him, because the NSW Police could still seize his firearms for ‘incorrect use’ of his firearm. The provision which applies here is section 7A, which states:

  1. A person must not possess or use a firearm unless the person is authorised to do so by a licence or permit.

Maximum penalty: imprisonment for 5 years.

  1. Without limiting the operation of subsection (1), a person who is the holder of a licence is guilty of an offence under this section if the person:

(a)uses a firearm for any purpose otherwise than in connection with the purpose established by the person as being the genuine reason for possessing or using the firearm, or

(b) contravenes any condition of the licence.

This means that if you obtain a firearm for primary production, then that’s all you can use it for.

Use it for something else – whether it is target shooting, hunting or protecting your family home – and you risk imprisonment for up to 5 years.

While this saga was unfolding, we helped the Dunstans write to Mr Barilaro suggesting simple amendments to the Act which would have helped avoid a repetition. We suggested the NSW Government consider adding the simple clause of‘without reasonable excuse’to s7A so that it forces the police – and judiciary – to consider the circumstances in which the firearm was used, rather than ignore them.

If these words, which are used in other legislation, had been in place last September, then David’s guns would never have been taken away.

Referral to Law and Safety Committee

In November, Mr Barilaro issued a media release saying that he referred this matter to the Law and Safety Committee of NSW Parliament.

In his release, he refers to the operation of the Firearms Act 1996, but if you read it carefully, you will see is focus is on home protection, not necessarily matters involving the Firearms Act. In fact the Terms of Reference for the inquiry include“The current awareness of firearms license holders of their rights and responsibilities”, as if David wasn’t aware of that when a guy went to the back of his house with a knife and a piece of wood! Click here to see his release.

We’re a bit surprised by that. However the fact this matter was referred to the committee is a positive step and delivers on an earlier commitment he made.

Around the same time, we wrote to Mr Barilaro enclosing a copy of advice we received from Mr Mainstone (click here to see that advice).

In Stephen’s advice, he responds to questions we asked about the appropriateness of including a ‘reasonableness’ test in s7A, and for other provisions relating to the storage of firearms and ammo (ss39-41). Without this, having a couple of 22s accidently left on the floor of your ute would also be enough to see you have your licence suspended in NSW.

We did not hear back from Mr Barilaro, so referred the advice to the Committee late last year ourselves.

The Committee met in February. While it is not taking submissions at this time, we’re hopeful they will see sense in adding ‘without reasonable excuse’ provisions where reasonableness can be justified.

We’re hoping for a win

Getting these changes included would be a small but useful win.

No doubt many of you would hope we would have pushed for more, but the reality is that the committee’s interest in the Firearms Act is limited and any changes would need the support of both sides of parliament.

If it gets up in NSW, then we can use it in other states to make sure no other shooter has the same thing happens to them – but we need it to come up in NSW first.

Consider it David’s legacy.




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